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female stand-up comedians coming to the table: that's all we're talking about!

2024-10-06

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"talk shows from a female perspective, the practice of offending in a pleasing manner, has become a way for feminism to inhabit the patriarchal system."

yang li said that it was the last time she participated in a talk show competition variety show, and she hilariously said that she wanted to "collect some money" | pure enjoyment

this year, after the silence after the storm, with the broadcast of two comedy talk show competition programs, "talk show and his friends" and "king of comedy stand-up season", talk shows have returned to the screen.

this time, the increase in the number of female talk show performers is particularly eye-catching.

"more and more female talk show performers are on the table!" some people cheered, but others felt uncomfortable: female talk show performers only talk about gender issues, their perspective is too narrow, and they are eating the traffic of "feminism" bonus, pleases female viewers.

(poster of actress in "king of comedy stand-up season")

judging from the topics outside the circle, content related to gender issues does seem to have triggered more discussions and even controversy. cai cai brought her experience of menstruation and buying sanitary napkins to the forefront, making topics such as #menstruationshame# and # malecelebrities endorsing sanitary pads become hot searches; echo talked about his original family, the relationship between three sisters and one brother. the story of family formation and the separation of the middle sister from her family brought countless discussions...

(hot searches related to cai cai and echo performance)

however, despite the hot topic, among the female contestants who only account for about 25% of the total number of contestants in the two programs, there are even fewer who can advance all the way. some netizens attributed this to the fact that female players are in turn restricted by the female perspective. although they have received traffic dividends because of their ability to cause controversy, the topic is too old and the perspective is too narrow to arouse widespread resonance among the audience. and understanding.

is this really the case?

01

too offensive? more aggressive female perspective

it’s a cliché that talking about gender is provoking confrontation.

since feminism has become more and more popular on the internet, "male" and "female" have almost become the most sensitive characters on netizens' keyboards. under social news, originally hidden gender labels are more easily brought out than ever before. there are fist fights in public order news about "it is the elder brother who pushes forward, and it is the elder daughter who is desperately guarding", as well as conflicts over people's livelihood. "that's what fairies are like" nonsense.

(comments under douyin social news that cause antagonism between men and women)

these extreme statements have made gender issues an increasingly sensitive issue on the internet - when it comes to men and women, they are more about venting emotions than rational discussions.

however, on the stage of talk show, an art that is advertised as offensive, humor seems to have blurred the public's sensitivity to this issue to a certain extent, resetting everything back to the scope of listenability and discussion.

hoffman and others have summarized research on gender differences in humor from 1977 to 2018. the only humor style that is significantly related to gender is aggressive humor. men use this type of humorous utterance more frequently than women.

in other words, using offensive humor is a thing more associated with masculinity. however, judging from netizens’ perceptions and feedback of these two variety shows, it is obvious that the performances of female talk show actors are more aggressive on stage.

tang xiangyuperformance clips)

be a "strong woman"zhang huiin the performance, he tried to redefine the good or bad of the label "strong" for women. after completing the creation of the "good woman" meme and the deconstruction of "coquettish women are the best", the comediandou wentaofrankly saying that "as a male, i feel a little depressed, i don't even have the courage to reach out (to shoot the lamp)", zhang hui's response was: "i understand, some men are like this."

the performances of female talk show actors may be the output of such a "good woman" temperament. in this uninterrupted 5 minutes, it is strong and straightforward, but because of its humorous expression, people feel "a little decadent" between admitting to being offended and forcing a smile.

but the talk show stage is not a stable and safe zone for offensive humor, and "just a joke" has not become an absolute immunity from criticism and criticism.

(discussions by various parties about yang li a few years ago)

the joke "why can men be so ordinary yet so confident" that made yang li famous a few years ago not only brought fame and fortune, but also ignited online violence. she herself was attacked and her endorsement was reported. however, as time passed, in the rounds of quarrels and debates, the audience finally "tolerated" this expression, or in other words, more and more people recognized the legitimacy of this expression. sex.

for women, this kind of expression is extremely valuable.on the stage of talk shows, women, who have always been envisioned as gentle and submissive, use aggressive humor, a behavioral pattern that subverts traditional gender, and reveals the possibility of humor being beneficial to feminism.

during the rounds of online witch hunts, quarrels and rescues against yang li, the answers to whether men are truly trustworthy and whether men can accept ridicule are changing.

(clip of performance by stand-up comedian kevin hart)

in fact, among the gender topics in a large number of talk shows around the world, which are dominated by male actors, ridicule and cuckold jokes about women's vanity, unreasonableness, and repeated emotions have almost become as common and versatile as soy sauce and vinegar. seasoning, but it seems that women have never expressed their dissatisfaction with such a loud and decisive attitude. nowadays, with the introduction of female actors, teasing men is becoming a common thing.

it seems that the two sexes have finally reached an evenly matched conversation on the talk show stage. the practice of offending in a pleasing manner becomes a way for feminism to inhabit the patriarchal system.

02

too narrow? dilemmas of women in all aspects

as there are more female talk show performers and more people start from a female perspective, texts on gender issues seem to bring aesthetic fatigue to some people.

tang xiangyu talked about the issue of blind dates again, and the sudden filial piety that men always feel when looking for their partner. however, after the performance, the guests' comments did not seem to pay attention to her text structure or rhythm design, but questioned her content.

ma yilii think we need to see how she gets out of this predicament, and hope she can set an example for everyone;yang tianzheni think she may have returned to a familiar topic and hope she can have a broader perspective.

(yang tianzhen and ma yili’s evaluation of tang xiangyu’s performance)

we seem to hear similar complaints all the time in performances about gender issues. the "leftover women" who are constantly devalued in the relationship between the sexes, the "daughter-in-law" of other people's families who are constantly objectified and instrumentalized, the "working mothers" who are constantly faced with choices between family and career or ridiculed because of existing or possible childbearing...

before discussing whether these topics are tired of hearing, "why, almost 70 years after female talk show performers first appeared on stage, women's demands and complaints have never changed" is a question that needs to be considered.

the idea that female stand-up comedians are better off coming to the stage with answers rather than questions seems like an extravagant and demanding request, or perhaps calls into question the authenticity of this female predicament., thinking that it can be solved by individuals and is not positive enough.

(segment from the tv series "mrs. maisel")

it is precisely because the dilemma has existed for a long time and has not been resolved that someone needs to persistently raise questions and express the sharpness and sensitivity of the unsmoothed edges.and as long as the dilemma is real, the expression has meaning.

when zhisheng was still teasing his appearance, appearance anxiety was always present;cheng luas long as we talk about the ex-wife, the male feelings in marriage will always exist; when the black light keeps talking about being unable to see, the inconvenience of a blind person's life will always exist.

this also answers the question of whether the female perspective is too narrow to the point of exhausting the audience's aesthetics. the answer is that it is far from time.

women's plight never stops at the intimate relationship between men and women, but also extends to marriage, workplace, education and other aspects.it would be a paradox to turn a blind eye to the demands of people who account for about 50% of the population and only talk about personal experiences in public topics as usual, and such paradoxical things have been happening for too long.

03

fighting for expression = fighting for rights

why is the growing number of female stand-up comedians something to cheer about? because language is a kind of power.

twin sister yan yiyanyue talks about male and female names. male names often have verbs, such as "zhisheng" and "guangzhi". even the names have high hopes of conquering the world, while female names are often just emojis, which is very confusing. there are few verbs, and the only one is " zhao di".

(discussion on male and female naming in the comment section of an article on a public account)

names are a true example of language as rights. according to the good wishes brought by their names, the world is left for feipeng, haoyu, and xiuyuan to conquer, and social resources should be left for them to share, while zihan, xinyi, and jingyi only need to be quiet and gentle women. , waiting for the arrival of a happy life.

of course, this situation is slowly changing. just like yang li, who became famous in world war i, went into silence due to online violence, and now is one of the chief writers of "the king of comedy stand-up season". her escape is accompanied by changes in the public opinion environment, and with women being able to be as free as men have always been. by teasing women, you gain the power to tease men.

the five minutes of uninterrupted expression on stage are the five minutes for women to be seen.

(a demeaning term for women in everyday language)

some people talk about the "invisible in-laws", which is similar to the verbal practice of learning to wash dishes and cook so that you will not be disliked by your in-laws. this is suppressing the subjective consciousness of women as independent individuals, while confrontational expressions are actually fighting for me to be mine. completeness; some people talk about "menstrual shame", popularize the basic common sense that menstruation comes once a month and is uncontrollable, safeguard the legitimacy of expressing normal physiological needs, and stimulate more topics about whether sanitary napkins can use male spokespersons, pricing of sanitary napkins, etc. discussion; some people talked about appearance and body anxiety, and found that the so-called beauty standards may be just a way for some people to make money, which caused the audience to reflect.

in fact, on the stage of talk shows, we can also see many reflections and reflections on gender issues from a male perspective. for example, jia hua talked about his experience of learning makeup. he found that it was easy to be late when putting on makeup; he found that he was a little ashamed at first, but then he enjoyed it; he found that makeup itself is genderless, and both men and women have the right to pursue beauty. .

jia huperformance clips)

what’s even more precious is that from the beginning, the only female talk show contestantsiwenbeing singled out as the "queen of talk shows", and now being directly shouted out to "serve the table and eat" like male talk show actors, at least in the ranks of talk show actors, changes are taking place.

even if this is an industry that doesn’t need women.

but then again, although (men first) abound, which industry is (women first)? rather than worrying about whether the female perspective is too narrow or too flattering, the most important thing is to have more female talk show performers on the table. maybe as the quantity goes up, the types also go up.

references

1. xue jing. "women's speech" and "female speech": "talk show conference" and the transformation of female discourse [j]. art review, 2022, (01): 100-111.

2. sanlian life weekly: the “offensive” history of female talk show actors