so hateful! this shanghai aunt can't change her "stinky problem" in 20 years! nothing can be done about her?
2024-09-27
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throwing objects from high altitude,
known as "the pain hanging over the city",
happened in a residential area of shanghai
not a few either!
just last july, xiaofang reported on such a "difficult" old neighbor who caused a lot of troubles to the residents of jiangqiao no. 2 village in jiading district.
this old lady lives on the fifth floor. for the past 20 years, she has thrown household garbage downstairs from home from time to time. on the 1st to 4th floors of the entire building, no one dares to dry them. in this regard, we have communicated with neighbors, neighborhood committees, and property management, and even reported the case, but to no avail. he was even threatened by the other party in turn, saying that he was "a rough guy, so be careful of retaliation!"
finally, a resident captured the old woman throwing garbage multiple times through the camera of his vehicle. in the face of the evidence, the old man's daughter could only admit that her mother had engaged in high-profile behavior and accepted the punishment. afterwards, the local jiangqiao town government led multiple departments to install two public video cameras near the building involved to lock down the evidence.
however, after the camera is installed,
in fact, the old lady stopped for a week.
it’s throwing objects at high altitude again!
not only that, but it gets worse.
made some malicious acts of revenge.
after more than a year,
yesterday, the reporter came to jiangqiao no. 2 village again.
i saw the front of the building involved and aimed at the upstairs.
of public video cameras.
many residents expressed dissatisfaction with the old lady's behavior, and some said that their awnings had also been smashed due to high-flying. a resident provided a video to reporters. she said that after the report was broadcast last year, the old lady not only threw garbage from upstairs, but also poured water downstairs from time to time.
community residents:
after i installed the camera, it was very clean for a week, but then it stopped working and i kept throwing it away. the garbage was thrown away and the water was poured out. the sound of pouring water into the washbasin was very loud. we were woken up when we fell asleep. the water started pouring out at five or six o'clock in the morning. anyway, it hasn’t stopped, and there’s also fast food. does that new probe work? do they have penalties? there is also such a thing...
there are obviously cameras installed.
locked up a lot of evidence,
why can't we stop the "high selling" behavior of the elderly?
the territorial urban management said,
evidence captured by technical defense equipment
still not enough to constitute a punishment.
tong qi, deputy captain of the comprehensive administrative law enforcement team of jiangqiao town, jiading district:
these videos and videos are actually not very clear. they can only reflect that she poured a little water down there. some of them are because it’s too dark at night and they can’t see clearly.
reporter: is there a face?
tong qi: no, but it’s definitely their home.
the person in charge revealed that in the past year since the installation of the probe, a 100-yuan fine was actually issued on august 17 last year. however, the fine was not for the old lady, but for her daughter. the punishment was not for throwing an object from high altitude, but for it's littering in the community.
the reporter also found the property manager of the community, who said that the two technical defense equipment installed in the community are just ordinary cameras, not professional high-altitude parabolic equipment that can actively capture parabolic trajectories. daily manual monitoring is required at all times, otherwise it will be difficult to find problems; and in in the daily management of high-tech anti-explosion equipment, there is also the problem of unknown management entities.
in addition, one of the cameras was blown off when the typhoon made landfall. the remaining camera either had a blind spot and could not take pictures, or the resolution was not clear enough. it was difficult to capture a specific person at night, making it very difficult to trace back. .
so,
is there any more sophisticated "technical defense" equipment?
according to xiaofang’s understanding, there is!
a new ai monitoring system was recently introduced in a community in jinshan to accurately locate the source of high selling. the most special thing about this device is that the camera works 24 hours a day, but it will only record when a parabolic event occurs. however, through the multiple ai algorithms in the system, it can quickly locate the source of the parabola and record it in just 35 seconds. in about seconds, the recorded video evidence is pushed to the manager.
in the more than half a month since this system was launched on september 3, this community has solved many incidents of high-altitude objects being thrown, and most of the objects thrown were cigarette butts, plastic bags, etc. neighborhood committee staff will use the video to find the person involved, verify and advise.
however, for jiangqiao second village
for this old lady who has been throwing objects at high altitudes for nearly 20 years,
even if the neighborhood committee upgrades and installs this system,
it doesn't help, either.
because from the perspective of the local urban management and neighborhood committees,
splash water downstairs,
it doesn’t seem to be considered a high-altitude parabola.
let alone punish the old lady on this basis.
so,
regarding the behavior of high-altitude parabola,
what is the legal provision?
what kind of parabolic behavior
is it possible to be subject to criminal punishment?
throwing objects from high altitudes has been defined as an "illegal act" for a long time; until 2021, the amendment to the criminal law came into effect, and throwing objects from high altitudes was officially punished.
paragraph 2 of article 291 of the criminal law stipulates: whoever throws objects from a building or other high altitude, if the circumstances are serious, shall be sentenced to fixed-term imprisonment of not more than one year, criminal detention or surveillance, and shall also or solely be fined.
the so-called "serious circumstances",
the relevant judicial interpretation is:
the degree of social harm of the behavior should be comprehensively considered based on factors such as the perpetrator's motivation, the place where the object was thrown, the circumstances of the object being thrown, and the consequences, and the crime should be correctly applied and the penalty accurately determined.
therefore, this old lady who lives on the 5th floor may face severe legal punishment unless the things she throws hurt people or break things. otherwise, she just splashes dirty water, throws some egg shells, and takes out food every now and then. box, disgusting and disgusting. the neighbors downstairs, the local neighborhood committee and the city management seemed really helpless to deal with her.
considering that the resident involved is an old man in his seventies,
worry that the other party will behave excessively
therefore, the local neighborhood committee said,
they have been thinking of ways,
i hope to try to rely on education, persuasion and other methods to
to influence the elderly.
tong qi, deputy captain of the comprehensive administrative law enforcement team of jiangqiao town, jiading district:
we also interviewed her daughter, because the old lady is more sensitive to this aspect, and she may not feel very comfortable after the last exposure. after the last administrative penalty (media reports), the old lady would have some conflicts with the neighbors downstairs.
in addition, the old man’s legs and feet were inconvenient, so the community also arranged for volunteers to help collect garbage from their home, hoping that she would change from the perspective of community care.
the community has also set up communication platforms many times and reported the situation to the local police station. the community police have also conducted legal education for them many times, but the effect is still not obvious.
he beilan, secretary of the party branch of jiangning community:
we arranged for volunteers and social workers to visit her door regularly to understand her needs. because she has inconvenient legs and feet, we specially arranged volunteers for her to put the garbage at her door, and volunteers would come to collect it for her. we also went to the door together with the police to provide guidance and persuasion to the aunt, and explained the laws and regulations to her. but after a while, she started to behave like this again. i wonder if she had conflicts with other residents again.
deputy director of jiangqiao town community office:
in the later stage, we are still preparing to strengthen contact with the community and try our best to do this properly. the neighborhood committee has also set up a platform. the urban management and police officers have also come to the meeting and fined them. we have also installed technical security cameras. we are building a platform. , the rest should be left to law enforcement.
it doesn't make sense,
the influence is also limited.
this difficult old neighbor,
it’s a headache for many people.
at the same time, some neighbors also expressed their opinions.
is it because i am over 70 years old?
you can rely on your old age and ignore the law,
do whatever you want?
this makes the neighbors who live a regular life,
why is it so embarrassing?
in this regard, reporters also took to the streets to conduct interviews.
go listen to everyone's suggestions.
citizen: i don’t think it’s very reasonable, because the source of this matter cannot be solved, and we can’t always have volunteers to pick it up. we still have to work with the old lady to do the work.
citizen: it would be more dangerous if she threw something heavy. if something went wrong, the beer bottle would fall in and the head would break open, right?
citizen: the neighborhood committee really indulges them, going up to collect garbage and so on. children need to be educated from an early age. after living so long, they still don’t understand the basic principles.
citizen: communicate with the elderly person’s family, because the elderly person may be a bit more stubborn, and it may be easier for the family members to communicate with her.
citizen: it’s useless even if she doesn’t listen to our persuasion. then help the neighbors. if someone is in trouble, we can help her take it off. if she feels embarrassed, then she can just throw it away.
education, communication, helping each other,
this is the key word mentioned by most passers-by.
but think about it, after all, it’s been almost 20 years.
the behavior of throwing objects at high altitudes
it seems to have become a way of life for the old lady,
it also became a kind of stress response for her to fight against her neighbors.
conflicts and knots between neighbors,
the knot becomes deeper and deeper,
to resolve it from the root cause,
it will definitely take longer.
they say that old people are like children, and the more they forcefully confront her, the more counterproductive it will be. xiaofang felt that since only focusing on the elderly was ineffective, could her daughter be a new breakthrough? over time, after the mental illness is cured, and with the help of neighborhood committees, volunteers, and neighbors, the external behavior of throwing objects at high altitudes may also change.
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reporter: li shijing
photographer: zhu yong
source: newsroom
